[AT-ASB] FW: Draft 1 of ARINC 682 Released
Sam Buckwalter
Sam.Buckwalter at sae-itc.org
Tue Dec 1 09:12:50 EST 2020
Hello All:
Please see the message Michael Kroeger regarding clarification on section 7.2.4 of the AT ASB Draft.
Sam
From: Kroeger, Michael <michael.kroeger at airbus.com>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 10:13 AM
To: Sam Buckwalter <Sam.Buckwalter at sae-itc.org>
Cc: MONTEIL, CECILE <cecile.monteil at airbus.com>
Subject: Re: [AT-ASB] Draft 1 of ARINC 682 Released
Hello Sam,
With regard to our last Working Group Mtg (Nov/12th) please find herewith the requested input, reg. clarification on para 7.2.4 Special Approval Statements "..... Airframers will not require additional approval statements......." which is not acceptable in the current version.
1. All VSBs where Airbus has to review & validate will hold the Airbus Technical Acceptance or Technical Acceptance Statement in the VSB which is instructed by the Technical approval/Technical acceptance letter for the VSB.
2. VSBs sent to Airbus for information only (Where airbus validation is not required) will be recorded as such without the need for Airbus Approval/Acceptance letter or Approval/Acceptance statement in the VSB.
3. For VSBs applicable to several OEMs (Where the affected parts are valid for Airbus and None Airbus parts) and Airbus is requested to review and Approve/Accept, then the Approval Atatement will still be in the VSB with additional NOTE indicating the validity of the statement is only for Airbus Parts. Airbus recommends creating a VSB per OEM.
4. Airbus does not object to having additional approval (from FAA or supplier delegation approval statements prior or after Airbus VSB review. Airbus only needs to indicate the approval of the VSB by Airbus in front of the customer and logically to the supplier also.
NOTE: Airbus has the delegation to approve a VSB under the authority of DOA ref. EASA.21J.031. This delegation also applies when the VSB needs to be technically accepted without the need for approval (Minor amendment changes for example). then we will use the appropriate statement: "The modification procedures described in this SB are reviewed and technically accepted by Airbus to apply to the Airbus fleet affected.
This SB does not contain any change information that revises the equipment definition covered by Airbus approved modifications"
Basically the work done and validation performed by Airbus needs to be indicated in the VSB. The statement is given not only for the technical content but also from the airworthiness aspect if the parts affected are airbus certified parts. Such responsibility and action needs to be reflected in the VSB. Except Airbus ought to only record a VSB for information only where Airbus had no involvement in reviewing and approving the content.
The Template of a VSB can either be arranged for each OEM or in case of mixed OEM VSB, Airbus reserves the right to indicate the validation performed in the VSB for the reason mentioned above in point Nr. 4.
If you have further questions, please let me know.
Best regards
Michael Kroeger
Head of Cabin & Cargo Service Bulletins
Customer Service - SEMBC
AIRBUS
Phone: +49 40 743 77337
Mobile: +49 160 535 6518
Mailto:michael.kroeger at airbus.com<mailto:michael.kroeger at airbus.com>
AIRBUS Operations GmbH
Kreetslag 10
21129 Hamburg
Deutschland
Airbus Operations GmbH
Sitz der Gesellschaft / Legal Domicile: Hamburg
Registergericht / Registration Court: Amtsgericht Hamburg HRB 43527
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates / Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Dr. Michael Schöllhorn
Geschäftsführung / Board of Management:
Dr.-Ing. André Walter, Vorsitzender / Chairman;
Marco Wagner; Daniela Lohwasser; Oliver Vogelgesang
Am Mo., 9. Nov. 2020 um 08:26 Uhr schrieb Kroeger, Michael <michael.kroeger at airbus.com<mailto:michael.kroeger at airbus.com>>:
Hello Sam,
Please find herewith our comments to the Draft. My requested changes are marked in RED.
Thanks for considering them.
I am looking forward to exchanging this subject during the workshop on Wednesday, 11th of Nov.
5.1 VSB Revisions
Service bulletins can require revisions over their life for a number of reasons. This can include correction of some types of minor errors, addition of new part number of a unit type to the VSB, improvements to the service bulletin, obsolescence, etc.
Care must be taken in revising a VSB so that units modified by earlier revisions of a VSB are not left orphaned by subsequent revisions. In general, if a part or all of a released VSB becomes obsolete or non-preferred, it must not be removed from the VSB in a revision, but rather marked in a way to indicate that the affected portion of the service bulletin is not to be used after a certain date (the date of the
subsequent revision) and that an alternate method should be used for modifying any units from that date forward. This provides the documentation required for the modifications made to any previously fielded units modified by earlier revisions of the VSB.
Revisions should be indicated by a sequential letter or number, and a table should be included showing the dates of the release of all revisions. Revisions should include change bars in the margin indicating the test that was changed or added. The proper place will be right at the start of the VSB using the RTS - “Revision Transmittal Sheet”
6.2 Reference to CMM
At the time of edition, the VSB must contain the reference of the current version of the CMM, containing the Illustrated Parts List at time of the VSB redaction. The industry expectation is that the CMM is to be revised as soon as possible, but no later than 90 days and EMM is to be revised within 180 days (according to ATA iSpec 2200) after the SB is released
When relevant, reference to other type of Technical Publication can be made, such as Standard Practices, Optional Part Number Catalogue etc. However, any referenced publication must be available to the Airline Operator. Internal documents and Engineering documents which are not available must not be referenced, rather, the information from these documents will be included as a part of the VSB (See Section 6.2.4).
[(Please change the 180 days to 90 days. NOTE: The 90 days are requested with the Airbus Approval Letter(Furthermore, In compliance with GCP and accordingly SSC, when a Service Bulletin effects a change to manuals, wiring diagrams, parts catalogs, etc., the manufacturer shall issue the necessary revisions to these publications promptly, but in no case later than 90 days from the Service Bulletin date or 90 days from the time of operator notification of acceptance.))
Airbus Input on last draft: At the time of edition, the VSB must contain the reference of the current version of the CMM, containing the Illustrated Parts List at time of the VSB redaction. The industry expectation is that the CMM is to be revised as soon as possible, but no later than 180 days after the SB is released. (90 days after the VSB approval)]
6.2.5 Photographs and Drawings
Use of drawings and Photographs is encouraged, to provide help in the application of a procedure that is difficult to describe in simple words. Drawing in this sense means Illustration created from an engineering drawing but not itself. It should be limited to the specific area and clear to trace and understand.
7.2.3 Material List
ATA guidance requires a list of all material used to be included in the VSB. This Material List must include the true vendor part number and vendor or generic part number as well as any supplier assigned part number. This guidance is the same as that which applies to CMMPLs in providing True Vendor Part Numbers for all Material items used. An exception is for assemblies produced by the supplier creating the VSB in which case the only part number available is the supplier’s unique part number.
Pricing for individual parts does not need to be included as a part of the Material List except in the cases described in Section 7.2.2.
7.2.4 Special Approval Statements ***As stated in our message on 9th of April, Airbus still do not accept to disregard Airbus Approval Statements in VSBs, as long as Airbus approved/accepted the VSB***
Approv[image.png]al statements in VSBs will be limited to those referring to, or required by, applicable regulatory agencies (e.g., FAA, EASA, CAAC, etc.) Suppliers will not add, and Airframers will not require additional approval statements specific to their approval, as these defeat the goal of standardization of format and wording for VSBs for all Suppliers and Airframers.
One Template for all….
• Airframers
• Suppliers
• Define the four categories and reference the ATA document Ispec 2200 • BFE
• SFE
• SSFE (Selectable Supplier Furnished Equipment)
• One template for all air transport VSB
Best regards
Michael Kroeger
Head of Cabin & Cargo Service Bulletins
Customer Service - SEMBC
AIRBUS
Phone: +49 40 743 77337
Mobile: +49 160 535 6518
Mailto:michael.kroeger at airbus.com<mailto:michael.kroeger at airbus.com>
AIRBUS Operations GmbH
Kreetslag 10
21129 Hamburg
Deutschland
Airbus Operations GmbH
Sitz der Gesellschaft / Legal Domicile: Hamburg
Registergericht / Registration Court: Amtsgericht Hamburg HRB 43527
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates / Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Dr. Michael Schöllhorn
Geschäftsführung / Board of Management:
Dr.-Ing. André Walter, Vorsitzender / Chairman;
Marco Wagner; Daniela Lohwasser; Oliver Vogelgesang
Am Di., 1. Sept. 2020 um 11:53 Uhr schrieb Sam Buckwalter <Sam.Buckwalter at sae-itc.org<mailto:Sam.Buckwalter at sae-itc.org>>:
Hello Cecile:
Attached is a copy.
I hope all is good with you.
Sam Buckwalter
Program Director
Executive Secretary AMC
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From: MONTEIL, CECILE <cecile.monteil at airbus.com<mailto:cecile.monteil at airbus.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 2:56 AM
To: Sam Buckwalter <Sam.Buckwalter at sae-itc.org<mailto:Sam.Buckwalter at sae-itc.org>>
Cc: Michael Kroeger <michael.kroeger at airbus.com<mailto:michael.kroeger at airbus.com>>
Subject: Re: [AT-ASB] Draft 1 of ARINC 682 Released
Hello Sam,
Hoping everything is going well with you.
Could you please send us the draft by mail?
Thank you very much
Best Regards,
Cecile
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 18:49, industry.activities <industry.activities at sae-itc.org<mailto:industry.activities at sae-itc.org>> wrote:
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Draft Circulation
Draft 1 of ARINC Project Paper 682: Guidance for Air Transport Service Bulletins
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